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I have a theory of buying stuff for other people that I'm running past you people to see if it's sound:

If you don't know what's good, buy what's weird.

I mean, obviously, "find out what's good" should be a preliminary step when possible. But this came up when [livejournal.com profile] timprov and I were discussing my theories of buying beer for other people's consumption, since I am a non-beer-drinker. I get things I recognize [livejournal.com profile] markgritter as having bought before. But if I'm looking for variety for a party and don't recognize enough stuff as good, I grab something that looks totally off-the-wall, on the theory that drinking bad or mediocre beer they've never had before is at least going to be a data point for people, whereas drinking very familiar bad or mediocre beer is just depressing and pointless.

For what things does this not work? (Note: this is not rhetoric proclaiming, "This works for everything!" It's a genuine question.)
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Date: 2008-07-22 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dd-b.livejournal.com
I'm doubtful about this for beer. I know darned well it's a bad idea for party munchies (especially if you're in an oriental grocery store). Teriyaki grasshoppers are simply no substitute for potato chips!

In fact I'm more and more doubtful in more and more areas the more I think about it.

However, I think I'm assuming one usually has some idea what's *ordinary*. If one really has no clue at all, I guess the choice is inherently pretty random.

Date: 2008-07-22 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tanaise.livejournal.com
I got invited to a metrosexual party, so I brought double chocolate stout since what's more metrosexual than chocolate beer? (Possible the fruit beers, but the chocolate was cheaper.)

For what doesn't this work? Hmm. I think it always has a chance of being made of win, but there's some areas it might be more ill-advised--major appliances, cars, children's picture books.

Date: 2008-07-22 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Would I rather have teriyaki grasshoppers than a particular brand of potato chips I know to be terrible? Actually I think so. Yes.

Would I predict you, specifically, to react the same way? Heh. Probably not.

Date: 2008-07-22 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] p-j-cleary.livejournal.com
Clothes. Going for what's weird is either just putting something to take up room in someone's closet or making them wear something that will result in embarassment.

Date: 2008-07-22 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Children's picture books are supposed to be weird! Children's picture books thrive on weird!

There is a cat wearing a hat. For more than the few seconds it takes him to tear the hat off and kill the monkeys. That's very strange and suspect.

Date: 2008-07-22 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tanaise.livejournal.com
I think it works better as a hostess gift (or at least that's how I was reading the comment, mostly) than as an approach to life.

Date: 2008-07-22 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Buying clothes for other people is a dicey proposition at best. But you're right, "get the strangest thing in the store," probably won't do.

Date: 2008-07-22 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Also, how did you know it was a metrosexual party? Was it just that you recognized the people involved as metrosexuals, or was it on the invitations?

Date: 2008-07-22 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cloudscudding.livejournal.com
Wouldn't work: clothes, electronics or items required to be functional in a specific way--so for some electronics, weird is good, but for, say, an MP3 player, weird is bad.

Aside from that, I now have a new gift-purchasing algorithm. Yay!

Date: 2008-07-22 09:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] akirlu.livejournal.com
I'm thinking this might be an unfortunate thing to do when buying perfume. Or buying a gift for the sort of person who will feel obligated to keep and display your gift, no matter how much they secretly hate it. (Unless of course you're seeking to torture the recipient, but that doesn't seem like a Mrissish tactic.)

Date: 2008-07-22 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tanaise.livejournal.com
Well, see, that's a good weird. but there are also bad weird kids books. Usually more like stupid and pointless and such, but sometimes, they're just bad.

Date: 2008-07-22 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tanaise.livejournal.com
Perhaps what the real criteria is, is a price tag and/or need for research. For example, if I am buying a 5 dollar electronic device, it could probably be as weird as it wants, so long as it looks like it won't die immediately. If I am buying a $400 stereo, I probably want to actually find something good.

Date: 2008-07-22 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
"For what things does this not work?"

Pharmaecuticals.

B

Date: 2008-07-22 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
Also military weaponry.

B

Date: 2008-07-22 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callunav.livejournal.com
I do this a lot, especially with comestibles. I've had some colossal failures, but also some surprising successes, and even the failures have led to entertainment. I think it would be different if I were the host and responsible for supplying the mainstays of a gathering, but usually I'm a guest bringing a contribution, and it's worked out pretty well. That, I think, says a good deal more about the people I hang out with than about the generalizable principle, but I do think that among geeks this works pretty well.

I agree with the many comments above about clothes.

I think the underlying principle may be size/duration. Weird things that may not be too good which will be gone before the evening is over = viable. Weird things which just keep going = a burden. That goes for clothes, which have a long duration. I think it also means that at least for me, short books - thin humor things or wacky phrase-books, or, yes, children's picture books - but not full-length novels. I don't know that many people who are going to stick with a 300-page thing they're not sure they like at all, just for its weirdness value. It'll just sit around, while they decide whether they've had it long enough that they're allowed to throw it away, yet. Similarly, ornamental objects succeed on this principle directly proportionately to size and value: a strange wind-up toy can be a win, but an expensive and bizarre and bulky set of windchimes from Tanzania, less so. That's a different aspect, but one which I see as analogous to duration.

It's the same way that one may be willing to watch a half-hour episode of something bizarre and not necessarily very engaging, and may even find it a source for conversation, but a 2 hour movie with the same qualities is just an imposition.

...I think I had more permutations to offer, but my brain turned off. Whoops.

Date: 2008-07-22 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
Mineral rights.

Date: 2008-07-22 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tanaise.livejournal.com
It was the title of the party. My brother inherited my dad's weird party gene (dad sample one (http://www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/marsh/own_page/welcome_back.htm), dad sample two (http://www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/marsh/own_page/gracious_education.htm) vs my brother's holiday card (http://www.nathanielmarsh.com/wordpress/?p=128)) We've had Metrosexual, Uptown/bottom shelf (a two story extravaganza of class and crass), the Kidding Around/BYOBG party (Bring your Own Baby Goat). This latest party has no theme yet, other than 8/8/8.

Date: 2008-07-22 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
Generalization: any medical treatment.

B

Date: 2008-07-22 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
And lab test equipment.

B

Date: 2008-07-22 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
Also political consultants.

B

Date: 2008-07-22 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athenais.livejournal.com
You never buy me mineral rights anymore. Where did our love go wrong?

Date: 2008-07-22 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
Probably consultants of any kind.

B

Date: 2008-07-22 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
Therapists. (Does this fall under "any medical treatment," above?)

B

Date: 2008-07-22 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
It's all about radio spectrum bands, baby. (I don't know which ones are good, so I'm buying you the weird ones. We're going to convince drivers to trail 30 meter cables behind them so they can receive our 30 b.p.s. ELF radio broadcasts.)

B

Date: 2008-07-22 09:41 pm (UTC)
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