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One big difference in having [livejournal.com profile] timprov out in Boston for the week is that my process wibbling to him goes on IM and can be transferred here more easily when it amuses us.

[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: So I have to ask you: how unforgivable is the sin of prologue?
[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: Is it less unforgivable if the prologue is in Carter's voice?
[livejournal.com profile] timprov: I'm not good with sins.
[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: Lots of people aren't; that's why they call them sins.
[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: And not "stuff we're all good with."
[livejournal.com profile] timprov: What sort of prologue?
[livejournal.com profile] timprov: What happens in it?
[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: Carter...um.
[livejournal.com profile] timprov: The hell you say.
[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: I might.
[livejournal.com profile] timprov: Is Tesla there?
[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: Carter is drunk and runs into
[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: No not Tesla!
[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: Perhaps possibly some stuff that he won't understand until--

[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: See, this is why I wasn't thinking more carefully about this.
[livejournal.com profile] timprov: Hee.
[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: Because now instead of "Must I have a prologue?" the question is, "Well, hell, how do I fit the new plot thread in with the rest of the book."
[livejournal.com profile] timprov: Absent a prologue?
[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: No, no, present a prologue.

[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: Unless I just declare it Chapter One Dammit.
[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: By fiat.
[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: "I am ze auzzor! I outrrrrrank you!"
[livejournal.com profile] timprov: Carter drives a Fiat?
[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: Fiat makes pickups?
[livejournal.com profile] timprov: "It's kind of like an El Camino, only me and my cousins made it one summer. There was beer involved."
[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: (Table of contents: Chapter One Dammit, Chapter One, Chapter Two....)
[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: Heeheehee.
[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: Phrases the world never needed: "it's kind of like an El Camino."
[livejournal.com profile] timprov: "It takes a lot of beer to come up with the idea to turn a perfectly good car into an El Camino knockoff. It still takes quite a bit if it's a Fiat."
[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: "You can haul, like, a couple of 2x4s in it if you don't mind them sticking up. It's not really a hauling things sort of pickup."
[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: "Or a driving over rough terrain sort of pickup."
[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: "So to recap: like an El Camino."
[livejournal.com profile] timprov: "But you can tow a boat behind it, as long as you stick to Fisher Price."
[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: "I think it's too big for Elmer's canoe, even."
[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: "But I'm too big for Elmer's canoe, so no worries."
[livejournal.com profile] mrissa: Poor Elmer.
[livejournal.com profile] timprov: Yah.

Date: 2009-10-10 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timprov.livejournal.com
Aside to [livejournal.com profile] numinicious: I tried, I really did.

Date: 2009-10-10 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
What did you try?

Date: 2009-10-10 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com
I see no more sense in declaring prologues sins than I do in declaring the same of adjectives or adverbs. They are a legitimate narrative structure, if one that's often used badly (http://www.swantower.com/marie/essays/craft/prologues.html), and if your story needs one, then go for it.

(And yes, I felt that way even before I started writing books with prologues.)

Date: 2009-10-10 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timprov.livejournal.com
I should think that was obvious.

Date: 2009-10-10 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Oh, right, Tesla insertion.

Date: 2009-10-10 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
And I'm usually Captain Suggestible, too.

Date: 2009-10-10 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timprov.livejournal.com
He was notably not into that sort of thing.

Date: 2009-10-10 09:58 pm (UTC)
brooksmoses: (Default)
From: [personal profile] brooksmoses
*laughs really quite a bit*

Also, for what it's worth Fiat actually does make pickups. But I figure this one is about the right imagery for this. (Though see also this Fiat, which is sort of a rough-terrain-and-beer sort of Fiat although not a pickup [yet].)

Date: 2009-10-10 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] columbina.livejournal.com
It's nice seeing that other people have the sort of IM conversations I do with [livejournal.com profile] nonelvis.

Nice, as in, "Oh, good, these people are crazy too."

Date: 2009-10-10 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miz-hatbox.livejournal.com
You guys are cute.

Date: 2009-10-11 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coalboy.livejournal.com
I really do like the title "Chapter one, dammit".

Date: 2009-10-11 12:20 am (UTC)
brooksmoses: (Default)
From: [personal profile] brooksmoses
I should also note that there's another layer of amusingness for me because, in the online place where I usually have conversations of this sort, [livejournal.com profile] oneironaut goes by a handle of "Tesla". (The place started as a staff out-of-character room on a MUSH, and the convention there was for all the staff handles to be names of famous inventors or scientists. Many of them have stuck, even though the actual place has moved three times.)

Date: 2009-10-11 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diatryma.livejournal.com
I giggled madly.

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