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We’ve talked in the past about something I call writerly proprioception: the sense of relative shape and position within a story, the sense of where stuff is in relationship to other stuff and how much there is (but relating to one’s story, not to one’s body). For me this is a very literal analogy: it feels like knowing that my left knee is x many inches from my left foot because, well, because. Because you just know that. Because it’s your leg.


(My actual proprioception sometimes gets a little messed up–go neurological symptoms, sigh–so I guess that part of the analogy is possible too.)


But recently I heard the advice, “Don’t keep writing just to keep writing”–that is, don’t add on words to a section for the sake of adding on words–and I think that’s mostly good advice? but I have a caveat.


If you’re adding words to a scene of your story/book/whatever because you have a word count goal for the day and have not yet met that goal–or because you know that it’s very difficult to sell adult novels unless they reach a certain length–that’s not likely to result in quality fiction. If the scene is done and you haven’t met word count*, the correct answer is to finish the scene and start another scene.


But. If your writerly proprioception is telling you that something else goes there–if your writerly proprioception is basically saying that there’s a gap between your foot and your knee–sometimes writing more in that spot and seeing what emerges is really, really useful. If the actual words you write don’t contribute, you’ll have to take them out again. But if you know there needs to be something there, and you don’t know what yet, writing to get to it is a perfectly reasonable method, and at that point, by all means, keep writing just to keep writing.


Recently the current project (Itasca Peterson, Wendigo Hunter! filled with fierce eleven-year-olds and their grandpa!) did that to me. I could feel that Chapter Two was not done. And so I kept writing, and up popped a subplot that has implications in Chapters Four, Six, Nine, and Fifteen. I said, “We’re having an infestation of what?,” and then I just altered the outline and went on doing it. Because my sense of shape and structure knew there needed to be something there, and when I kept writing, there it was. Boom.


In the past I’ve told myself I could edit that kind of thing out later. I have learned better than this. I have had structural mice and load-bearing bears. The things I didn’t know I needed are the least removable of anything in a piece of fiction, basically. That is the brain doing what it’s trained to do. That is the part that’s smart about story asserting itself in the face of the part that thinks it knows what’s going on. Listen to that part. You’re working hard to let it out.


*And if word count is a good way for you to self-motivate. It isn’t for me, and I have known a lot of people to get hung up in various ways on word count. But I also know that it works for some.




Originally published at Novel Gazing Redux

Date: 2015-04-21 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com
I don't think I've heard you call it proprioception before, but that's an excellent analogy. I will have to remember that the next time I'm floundering to explain how sometimes you can just feel the shape of the story and how maybe these two things need to be brought closer together and no, you can't add detail about X over there, because there isn't room for it.

And yes, sometimes you keep writing and the weirdest things pop out. I didn't know Satomi had killed her own doppelganger until the words went onto the page. And to this day, I have no idea how the final confrontation would have played out without that.

Date: 2015-04-21 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yhlee.livejournal.com
I call it skeleton, but proprioception works better. I have a distinct sense of where the bones ought to be (or where they aren't working, if it comes to that).

Date: 2015-04-21 11:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com
Immediate thought: How does anyone write anything if they don't have that?

Second thought: Oh yeah, they make a plan first, and outline thing, and adjust that.

Immediate thought: But how do they even do an outline without that?

Second thought: I guess they have some other clever skills we know nothing about.

Immediate thought: We must go on a quest to discover these undiscoveres skills! Right now!

Second thought: Have fun storming the castle.

Date: 2015-04-21 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Yeah, that's just it: I make an outline and adjust it. That's how I work with this sense. I really have a hard time imagining how I would work without it. Clever unknown skills indeed.

Date: 2015-04-21 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Yeah, when you tell people the stuff you didn't know, they get really confused and sometimes upset and ask how you could have written the thing without knowing that. And the answer is, you couldn't, because it didn't work right, but you could start writing the thing without knowing whatever it is, and that's different.

Date: 2015-04-21 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com
Because it really is too big to fit into that margin -- when I was a teenager teaching myself to write, I found I was allergic to how-to-write books. They made me twitchy, gave me asthma, sleeping problems, made my brain turn off etc. So I couldn't read them, and this was a problem because I lacked vocabulary for talking about writing. As I utterly lacked people to talk to about writing you'd think this would have been OK, but I wanted to talk to MYSELF about writing. So I made up terms for talking to myself about writing, which was useful and productive until twenty years later I discovered usenet and found other people to talk to about writing. So some of my words -- like incluing -- other people found useful. And sometimes there was a proper word and I adopted that instead,.

I got the term mode from musical modes, which I had no kidding read about in Plato. So I didn't actually know what they were, but I knew they were a thing. And I took the term and in my head it means where the text is standing with regard to tone and structure and pacing and POV and humour and genre and confidentiality and jeopardy and expectations and a whole bunch of stuff. When I'd talk to other people they'd think I meant style, or that I meant one of those things, but I didn't, my "mode" means all those things. And it seems to me obvious that any text has a mode, and that some authors have one and some have many, like for instance Cordwainer Smith has one but Le Guin has a bunch. And I need mode before I can start writing something, I have to know all the mode-level stuff, and it includes the structural stuff that I use musical metaphors for like beats and movements.

And I hope that makes sense now.

Date: 2015-04-21 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Yes, thank you!

Date: 2015-04-21 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com
Well, and there's knowing, and there's knowing. When stuff like that comes out of left field, it's because my subconscious had figured something out and not told my conscious brain yet. I suspect -- but can't say for certain, because this is all going on where I can't "see" it -- that the "start writing" stage of things is a necessary component to getting my subconscious to do its thing. Either that's me working through the inchoate mess until it becomes choate, or else it's me tripping along doing nothing at all in particular but that little detail I dropped in there turns out to imply all kinds of stuff I didn't realize until it was in place.

Or something else. Because really, what do I know? I just work here. :-P

Date: 2015-04-21 05:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] genarti
I remember trying to explain to a friend how I conceive of plots -- and I'm not particularly good at plotting, but in this case I just mean the story shape, the pacing and size and scope and what needs to go in one bit to get to the other parts I know are coming. And I was flailing my hands (particularly useless since this was in LJ comments) and making shape-gestures in the air, because to me it's like a four-dimensional shape -- there's heft, there's movement through time, there's springiness and resilience and layers of construction, it's like a dance crossed with an AutoCAD diagram rotating in midair. Proprioception is a much better way of putting the "I mean, it's just shaped like THIS and you can move it and know that things need to go THERE or it'll bend all wrong, right?" feeling.

I make an outline and adjust it too, but making the outline involves a lot of staring into space while thoughtfully poking the story-shaped phantom limb.

Date: 2015-04-22 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diatryma.livejournal.com
I'm not sure how this relates to my own writing, but I can tell when a story is missing something. Usually it's novels, but sometimes I'll be critiquing a short story and oh hey you need a scene here with the birds. With novels, it's usually the ending-- too many bounces, not enough climaxes, things like that (and usually romance novels, now that I think of it). It's a weird sense.

Date: 2015-04-22 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mkille.livejournal.com
Very interesting! And also encouraging. Because in my own work (not a writer) I rely very heavily on what I guess could be called interpersonal or organizational or systems proprioception. And I've generally learned to trust that it's my brain doing what my brain is trained to do, as you say--though I also keep a strong second-guessing eye on it, because drafts and editing are not as applicable concepts in my work--but it also has caused me fits because I work in a field that expects one to be able to package explanations of successful practice into an hour-long workshop or 10-page journal article. And there is literally no possible way for me to do that. (The blank looks in response! The "okay, but..."s!) And I have felt like a failure. Now, not so much. So. Thank you.

Date: 2015-04-22 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Glad to help!

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