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[livejournal.com profile] cakmpls and [livejournal.com profile] writingortyping got me thinking, and what started out a comment got long, so it got moved over here instead. [livejournal.com profile] cakmpls was talking about sharing or not sharing one's SAT scores as an adult, and [livejournal.com profile] writingortyping was talking about being picked last in gym class (over on her non-lj blog).

The only important thing to me about my score on the SAT was that I wanted to beat my dad's score. Most of the schools in the Midwest accept ACT scores, and I think at least one of the ones I applied to required them. I didn't have a "competition" with anyone at my school -- we just weren't really like that -- and with the SAT I could compete with my dad. They hadn't done the major recentering of the test yet, but I still wonder about the drift from the time he took it until the time I did. I'm very good at standardized tests. I'm also very good at recognizing how very little they mean, so I can definitely sympathize with [livejournal.com profile] cakmpls's general policy of not sharing. It's a lot harder when you have a very high score, because if you say you had some average score, fewer people would mistake a point of data for a point of pride. (If you say you learned to read in kindergarten or first grade, nobody takes it as anything but a data point, but I had to wonder about commenting that I'd learned to read at 2 in one of yesterday's posts. I don't think it makes me a better or smarter person than someone who learned to read much later, but I've learned to worry about people seeing things that way.)

[livejournal.com profile] writingortyping said that something like 80% of people she knows claim to be the kid who was always picked last in gym, and that certainly not everybody could have been picked last. I opined that it was something like bragging about high school class rank or SAT scores: if you went around saying, "I was always picked first in gym in high school," it's a pretty lame boast. It makes it sound like you still think high school gym is important to your life. As much as high school jocks get petted and praised in our culture, washed-up ex-high school jocks are not similarly respected -- at least, not in any circle I've ever been in or seen. I've heard people say things like, "I was the captain of my high school football team," merely offering a point of information, not bragging, and get responses like, "Goody for you." So if I had been picked first all the time, I'd probably keep my mouth shut about it.

(I was not picked dead last, usually. I was never picked first, but I was also not generally enough of a disaster to be the last person picked. Ralston High had much bigger disasters than me. I've never liked team sports, unless you count floor hockey, which rocks because you get to hit people with sticks. I am much better at things I can be bothered to pay attention to, especially with the elbowing-and-checking component, but no one paid enough attention to notice that I was much better at it than I was at other sports, so I didn't get picked any sooner.)

I'm extremely ambivalent about things that are "very good for your age." Age-appropriateness was often used as a bludgeoning weapon when I was a kid: what you are doing right now is very good for your age, so don't you dare try to do more or better. What you're doing now is very good for your age, so I don't have to treat you with any respect, just a patronizing tolerance. One of my friends was once explaining that one of the problems with only children* is that we end up with no sense of age-appropriateness, that we want to be able to do everything just plain well rather than well for one of the kids. I hope she has given up on getting me to see this as a bad thing. When I was saying this to someone close to me recently, he told me, "[livejournal.com profile] mrissas are not age-appropriate," and it is perfectly true. I don't see the point to wanting to be a good writer for a 26-year-old, any more than I want to be a good writer for a girl or anything else obnoxious like that. I just want to be a good writer. I don't see why this should have been less true 10 or 20 years ago. I was still a writer then -- more fundamentally than I was a 6-year-old or a 16-year-old, I think, because I'm still a writer and have stopped being those other things.

On the other hand, Roo's current inability to play toccatas and fugues does not indicate that the kid is not very musical. Sometimes age-appropriateness really is, well, appropriate. Doing well in sports in high school is a good thing for people that age who value athletics. Doing well on the SAT is a good thing for people that age who value vocabulary and other similar test elements. I would never scorn Robin's crookedly drawn letters ("Is -- izzat an I?") because they weren't [livejournal.com profile] mechaieh's calligraphy. It's a balance, I guess. It's about timing and perspective.

*I have never once tried to explain to her the problems with people with siblings, but she has explained to me the problems with only children on more than one occasion. It's charming.

Date: 2005-05-19 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skylarker.livejournal.com
In gym during grade school I got picked sooner than in gym during junior and senior high - I was never picked last, but my interest in physical games waned as I got older and increasingly involved in books and schoolwork.

Before I started school I was more into the running and jumping, climbing and tussling. Once I learned to read I wanted to do that most of the time - though I retained some skill at things like dodgeball (the catching and throwing accurately) and archery.

Do others find it hard to balance their interests in sedentary pursuits like reading/writing/internet/computer games/tv etc with maintaining some minimal level of physical fitness?

Date: 2005-05-19 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
I think it's hard for people to find time for all the things they want to do and all the things they think they ought to do, regardless of what's in those categories.

We have a recumbent exercise bike -- it's easy on [livejournal.com profile] timprov's back (and mine, too), and when I'm not using the free weights on it, it's very easy for me to read while doing it, which means that it registers in my brain as virtuous reading time. Definitely a good thing.

I think one problem comes in when it's an interest vs. an obligation. If you enjoy something like hiking or biking that can have different scenery, or if you like the camaraderie and other people's variables in team sports, or if it's a sensation you directly enjoy, it's probably much easier to find time for that than if you're doing your form of exercise because it's good for you and don't really enjoy it.

Date: 2005-05-19 09:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redbird
Yes. I make time for the gym now, because I actually like lifting weights. Sure, it's good for me--but so are lots of kinds of exercise that range, for me, from boring to unpleasant, and I did/do as little of most of those as I can manage. (I use an exercise bike for cardio, reading as I go--and reminding myself that once I'm done with at least X minutes, I can go play in the weight room.)

Date: 2005-05-20 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
I really wish more people had a sense for which kinds of exercise their bodies will respond happily to. Some people get really great runner's highs, and some don't. Some -- like you, apparently -- feel awesome when they lift weights, and some don't. Some wretched beastly people tried to tell me that I would see every benefit in the world from every kind of exercise you can think of, because they had. Bodies differ. Major fact of life.

(The second-biggest disappointment was that I do not, in fact, have more energy when I'm getting regular aerobic exercise. I still do it; it's still good for me. And I suppose I'm a high-energy enough person generally that I couldn't reasonably ask for a lot more energy. Still. The biggest disappointment is that there doesn't seem to be anything I can do for strength, endurance, flexibility, or anything else I've been able to think of that will ease my menstrual cramps, and I wish people would stop saying it will. Sometimes cardiovascular health has to be its own reward, dammit.)

Date: 2005-05-20 12:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skylarker.livejournal.com
Have you tried belly-dance? Some of the movements originated to help women through the pain of childbirth (so I was told by a belly dance instructor). I found the movements good for menstrual cramps, too.

Dance in general is the form of exercise that I actually love, but I'm still more interested in reading/computers. Sigh.

Date: 2005-05-20 01:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Thanks for trying to help.

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