Curiosity about modes
May. 17th, 2006 07:40 amStory research, sort of, and sort of personal curiosity. Define terms for yourself, but if you think you're defining them idiosyncratically, please let me know. Nuance in the comments! Nuance in the comments is always welcome. (The first two questions may not be entirely clear. Basically I think there's a huge difference between being a very visual person and having good eyesight, that kind of thing. Also, you define what senses you feel you mess with in your art or craft. If you write poetry and experience that as a "hearing" art or a "sight" art or a "hearing and sight" art, whatever: put down your perception of it. Thanks.)
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[Poll #730569]
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Date: 2006-05-17 02:09 pm (UTC)I'm interested that you only thought of writing, though, and not some of the stuff you've been making for skin etc. lately.
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Date: 2006-05-17 02:31 pm (UTC)As a visual artist I'm paying attention to the whole range of my experience and trying to convey what I understand through all my senses in visual terms. As a singer, likewise. I think that's one of the things that makes the arts valuable: that ability to convey in a particular mode more than the mode itself contains - it's a way to get through to people who may be overly stuck in some one mode. The literary art can convey the whole world of the sense to people who are overly stuck in a verbal mode.
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Date: 2006-05-17 01:10 pm (UTC)I sometimes suspect that this constant shortage of sensations is why I hate to wear gloves (usually it has to be -10 C outside and even if I do know better, I hate working in gloves and often forget) - to give away even MORE of something I so lack is so hard.
It can look cute from outside, though - used to look like caring when I had to ask everyone to taste the food I was cooking. Well, used to look less good when I had people around and asked often : "Please sniff it - is it spoiled or not?"
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Date: 2006-05-17 01:11 pm (UTC)I'm so confused right now...
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Date: 2006-05-17 01:21 pm (UTC)More later as time permits.
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Date: 2006-05-17 02:21 pm (UTC)More later as time permits will be much appreciated.
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Date: 2006-05-17 01:57 pm (UTC)Surprisingly for all that, I'm not much of a dancer, but I think that's more from not getting the right sort of music to dance to as a child in ballet and tap lessons, and then having friends who just don't dance much. :) I liked the dances when I was in the SCA, and I enjoyed ballroom dancing in college, but when you're not that good at meeting and interacting with new people and nobody you know goes dancing ... well, you don't dance much.
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Date: 2006-05-17 02:20 pm (UTC)Yes!
Well, not about the sight. But I was trying to figure out how to say that for me above, touch = movement/awareness of space.
Oddly enough, I also Don't Dance. Though I watched Mad Hot Ballroom the other day and now I want to make some friends go do this with me:
http://heyletsgo.com/event-60854
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Date: 2006-05-17 02:10 pm (UTC)I have exceptional sight. I thought I was losing it when in NYC because there was no horizon to look to. I was growing near-sighted because the only things to look at were up close.
I have a "good ear" but have struggled with hearing problems through out my life. Sometimes I think that the "good ear" thing is compensatory.
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Date: 2006-05-17 02:24 pm (UTC)Because I'm nearsighted, I'm oriented toward form, color, and motion. The edges, boundries, and most fine-textures are too blurry for me to make out until I'm fairly close-up. (Conceptually I'm intrigued by where things bleed into one-another, and the fine-distinctions. perhaps I'm compensating?)
Touch hasn't been even a tirtiary sense for me. I'm aware of heat/humidity, but beyond my own body/clothes I only notice touch if I'm specifically investigating something (ie when shopping for clothes or furniture), or if the sensation is painful/dangerous. Even then the impression is usually fleeting and filed away as information rather than direct perception: 'feels good', 'feels rough', 'feels soft', etc. Touch is just not a way I generally relate to my surroundings.
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Date: 2006-05-17 03:10 pm (UTC)I went back and changed my answers to include "taste" rather than none of the above in the last question, after reading
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Date: 2006-05-17 04:36 pm (UTC)I write a lot of poetry too. So while I don't think of my self as specifically hearing orientated (I can tune out sound very easily), I do love the sound of words. But that's not really accurate. It's not so much how the words sound to me, as how they taste, so my favorite phrases and words have a great shape to them orally. For example, I love the words bollocks, the way I have to touch the tip of my tongue to the roof of my mouth, almost like shaping a ball in my mouth, then releasing and openeing my mouth, so that the sound can come more from the back of my mouth, only to jump forward again to make the "cks" sound. Such a great wor, so much fun to say.
And when you say xie xie (chinese for thank you), pronounced "SHYEH SHYEH", I keep my teeth closed and let it kind of come from the back of my mouth and the throat.
More favorites: "cellar door" and "figure female framed crookedly," both of which sound nice, but also taste marvelous to me in the different movements it forces my mouth to perform.
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Date: 2006-05-17 06:31 pm (UTC)Complicating factors: ecolocation and synesthesia.
And: I realized earlier this year that I'd been using "worry" as if it was a sense.
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Date: 2006-05-17 09:34 pm (UTC)I can sculpt pretty well for somebody who's never put much effort into it. And I learned to draw pretty well by imagining myself touching the curves of what I was seeing, and then translating those curves to my pencil. But I am totally at a loss when it comes to painting. I have little memory for color.
I have never, never, ever been able to stand clothes that were even slightly itchy or binding or clammy (I'm looking at you, polyester). I don't care how good they look. Touch takes precedence.
I keep being told this by people who'd know, so I guess it's true: I have unusually good proprioception and body awareness. I've filed that under "touch", but to me it really seems like its own thing. I do yoga and Pilates with some seriousness; yoga is a sort of art or craft to me.
My orientation toward sight was pretty strong when I was in school, but has lessened in the last several years. More than anything, I've grown to depend on getting feedback from multiple senses when I'm learning something new.
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Date: 2006-05-17 10:20 pm (UTC)Sight is odd for me; I am very sight oriented in some areas and not in others. Color is my most important sight perception and it hits before anything else. At this point in my life my vision is not fully correctable to 20/20 and so often fine detail is lost. And I almost never see pictures when I read (though I do some when I write); I hear words.
I'm a touch dominant communictor and touch is very important to me. Which can get pretty tough in museums. My first instinct on seeeing something interesting is to reach out and touch it.
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Date: 2006-05-18 03:37 am (UTC)I suppose it could be argued that my textual communication skills are a closely related craft, using natural language instead of more algorithmic approaches. Either way, sight is clearly the involved sense.
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Date: 2006-05-18 05:09 am (UTC)I am myopic -2.25 and slight astigmatism, -3.50 and not flattened. I don't venture very far without my glasses or some kind of distance vision correction.
I've got a good depth perception. i've got a pretty good useable wide-range vision (better with contacts of course.) and I'm a bit weird for visual pattern recognition - to the point where it makes clinicians ask if I have asperger's syndrome.
i've never been tested for that, but I doubt it.
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Date: 2006-05-19 07:14 am (UTC)I /notice/ sight and hearing, in general, more than other senses, although I do have a good connection to touch. (A lot of how I eat is tied up in the mixture of taste and textures, so I guess that counts as touch, too.)
I tend to /think/ I have a bad sense of smell, and I do, but for a long time I didn't rely on it at all, which meant that I didn't focus on it, which meant that, of course, I couldn't train it/understand it/use it effectively.
I'm trying, nowadays, with some success, to understand the world of scent, and to understand how I connect to it. (I often describe scents in terms of how they 'feel'. This seems to be because that's how I'm used to describing things in general, but it's also slightly synasthetic.)
Also, in terms of the last answer, I play around with colors, and also, I sing. (And play instruments.)
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Date: 2006-05-19 09:50 am (UTC)My sense of smell is poor and that makes me sad, especially when reading your posts about it. I feel like an incomplete animal. I sometimes enjoy the scents of nature, food, and so forth but I never ever notice the smell of people. I couldn't identify the scent of a single person, other than myself.
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Date: 2006-05-19 07:21 pm (UTC)It has drawbacks, I promise.
human smell
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