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I posted awhile ago about how I do not have to figure out which novel to write next right now. (Which I don't. Right?) And [livejournal.com profile] zwol wanted to know what the options were -- with the caveat, of course, that discussing the options didn't mean that I had to pick one. So. Options I might get to soon:

There is, first off, Midnight Sun Rising. This one is first because I have 40K of it written. It's in the same world as Thermionic Night and Copper Mountain (née Sampo), and it features a few of the same characters and magical objects, albeit significantly aged (it's set about 40 years after Cu Mt, without significant anti-aging technology). Plot-wise, however, it should stand alone. I like it. I like it a lot. I also like the idea of a related but separately salable work. But I'm a little wary of it, because TN/Cu Mt did such a number on me that related works are scary.

See also The Winter Wars, the YA prequel to TN. Again, stand-alone. Complete plot arc all on its own. And it's YA, so it's easier to hold the whole thing in my head without having to go have a lie-down. But it's related to those two, and so: scary. But cool. But scary. But cool. Also scary because it will be a YA fantasy dealing with an essentially modern war, and I haven't got a lot of models for that. If you can think of a YA fantasy that deals directly with the fighting of a 20th century war, please tell me so I can let that author metaphorically hold my hand.

The True Tale of Carter Hall. This is the novel that precedes the hockey fantasy stories I've been writing. It will almost certainly be pure joy to write when it's time to write it.

The thing I've been calling the Aesir noir novel. Same world as Dwarf's Blood Mead and The Mark of the Sea Serpent, but several hundred years later. The blonde who walks into the detective's office in Chapter One is Sigyn, Loki's wife. Ragnarok either follows or doesn't -- which is the case would be a spoiler.

Eleven Words for Home, an Oort Cloud sort of weird social structures book with perfumers and first-generation relativistic effect problems.

Deportees, space opera that makes me sing Woody Guthrie and Buddy Holly (and maybe a little Louis Armstrong) and read Dumas and books about the labor movement in the early 20th century in the US.

The YA with the dome accident for the Europan colonists and some genetic engineering issues.

You Big Jerk, Bronson Alcott -- no more the actual title than What We Did to Piss Off the Continent was, but it's YA historical SF, set in the mid-19th century US (not nearly far enough west to be Old West -- utopian socialists, not gunslingers or cattle-rustlers).

And Zodiac House, which is a chapter book (grade school age readers) that's partly finished and may qualify as an experiment in whether I can write for that age at all, or at this point, or neither.


There are others I will be trying not to write (she said, very carefully not looking at The Alder-Wood Statue). But those are the frontrunners at the moment; and I can't tell you what'll pop into my head (either new or from a half-formed idea I already have) by the time I actually do need to figure out what book I'm writing next.

One of the interesting things that's happened here is that I am conscious of having discarded some full-fledged, outlined novel ideas more or less permanently. I'm not deleting the notes and outlines I have for them; I'm not fond of the expression, "You never know," because sometimes you do, but this time I don't. But they have moved distinctly to the back of my brain as something I ever expect to write. I keep coming up with more novels to write, and some of the old novel ideas will just never acquire sufficient shiny to get written. And that's okay; it's good, even. [livejournal.com profile] elisem shared something Mike once told her about unfinished projects being nurse logs in the artist's forest ecosystem, and that was such a kind, useful, and true thing to hear. But in the time since I've heard it -- and she only said this within the last few months, if I recall correctly -- I've acquired better recognition of which of my old ideas are going to stay ideas and not ever become Real Live Books.

Comments of the, "Ooh, write that!" or the, "Hmm, tell me more about this thing," varieties are a great deal more welcome than comments of the, "Ew, don't write that!" variety. [livejournal.com profile] markgritter, for example, wants me to write the Aesir noir novel next. And if I know my mom, she wants The Alder-Wood Statue, to which I say, "Lalalala I CAN'T HEAR YOU, Alder-Wood Statue, lalalala!" But they both know this is not a democracy. As long as you know that, too, we'll be fine.

ETA: The notification for [livejournal.com profile] slrose's comment came with the GoogleAd, "Expose your book!" Which my brain completed with, "To the wolves on a barren hillside," which tells you either something about my character or something about my mood. Or possibly both.
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Date: 2007-09-26 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shana.livejournal.com
You do not have to figure out which novel to write next right now.

But it is interesting seeing some of the possible choices.

Date: 2007-09-26 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Thanks!

Date: 2007-09-26 01:38 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redbird
You do not have to figure out which novel to write next.

That said, Eleven Words for Home and the one that would have you singing Woody Guthrie seem most appealing from here. But the latter is more about my upbringing than your writing process.

Date: 2007-09-26 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Do you generally skew SF rather than fantasy in reading preferences at the moment, or is it those specific project taglines?

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Date: 2007-09-26 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] truepenny.livejournal.com
I think they ALL sound shiny!

Date: 2007-09-26 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Thanks!

If I didn't think they sounded shiny, too, I would be serene about this not having to choose thing, because the choice would have made itself already anyway.

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Date: 2007-09-26 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shana.livejournal.com
Snarf!

Well, that's really the same as critics, isn't it. :)

Date: 2007-09-26 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
No, no, the critics are the lions or the fiery furnace for your full-grown published novel. The wolves on the hillside are way before it gets to that point.

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Date: 2007-09-26 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wshaffer.livejournal.com
They do all sound shiny, and it is good that you do not have to pick which one to write next now.

I have a longstanding affection for the idea of the Aesir noir novel, but I have to say that You Big Jerk, Bronson Alcott is a marvelous working title. I'd love to hear more about that one.

Date: 2007-09-26 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
You and [livejournal.com profile] juliansinger are secret twins!

Date: 2007-09-26 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juliansinger.livejournal.com
You continue not to have to figure out what to write right now.

That said, I continue to love 'You Big Jerk, Bronson Alcott.' Also Aesir noir. (ooo.)

Date: 2007-09-26 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
I think you and [livejournal.com profile] wshaffer should do whatever jinx ritual one does in your parts of the country.

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Date: 2007-09-26 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Icy death potential makes everything better.

Date: 2007-09-26 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] intrepida.livejournal.com
You don't have to figure out what novel to write now.

But when they are done I would love to read the True Tale of Carter Hall and the Aesir noir novel. And the influences in Deportees sound really cool.

Date: 2007-09-26 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Thanks!

Date: 2007-09-26 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mamapduck.livejournal.com
"tells you either something about my character or something about my mood. Or possibly both."

Or possibly about latent feelings of aggression you harbor toward one or more of these books.

You do not have to figure out which novel to write next right now. I will not even hint about the one I am dying to read. ;)

Date: 2007-09-26 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
I can write any car novel I want as long as it is black features hockey?

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Date: 2007-09-26 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spaceoperadiva.livejournal.com
Can we write them down on fortune cookie slips, stuff the slips into fortune cookies and then choose the one that came in the tastiest cookie?

Date: 2007-09-26 11:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Well...you certainly can...I don't guarantee it'll pick my next book, though!

Date: 2007-09-26 04:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mkille.livejournal.com
Eleven Words for Home.

But you do not have to figure out which novel to write next right now.

Date: 2007-09-26 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillnotbored.livejournal.com
As long as we're clear you don't have to decide which novel to write next anytime soon, or now for that matter, I'd be happy to read any of those choices.

And what Elise told you about unfinished projects...yes. Ideas are sparks and starts and seeds for things that come later.

Date: 2007-09-26 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
We're clear. For the moment. I will refer back if need be.

Date: 2007-09-26 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vahepeatus.livejournal.com
There is not enough Utopian socialists in SF! This should be changed!

I must confess, though, that when someone who writes myth-based stories uses "Expose your book to the wolves on a barren hillside!", it sounds like a beginning of another story, where if the book does not appear, wearing wolf skins, in next morning, then there would be a reasonable expectation of a story about the wolves who, lead by the mysterious book, take over the world ...

Date: 2007-09-26 11:30 am (UTC)
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Date: 2007-09-26 11:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
I see your point (though I can't say whether I agree about that last book or not -- don't know enough to say), but I don't think any economic system can protect us from wanting to please our friends.
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Date: 2007-09-26 05:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athenais.livejournal.com
You most definitely do not have to figure out which novel to write next.

But is one of those listed above the 17th or 18th century Norwegian historical murder mystery fantasy novel? Because when you do have to decide, you know which one I'd vote for. Icy death potential really does make everything better.

Date: 2007-09-26 11:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
That requires enough research I haven't done yet -- it hasn't even settled on a century yet! -- that unless the research snowballs and starts eating me, it's not going to be the next book I write but one of the ones after that. This is possible, but it seemed less likely.

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Date: 2007-09-26 06:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katallen.livejournal.com
Deportees! Space opera I can tap my feet to :)

But you don't have to decide right now. (I keep having the urge to ask lj what I should write next, possibly to persuade what I'm writing now that I will be perfectly okay if it should want to yanno, finish being written and go out into the world and seek fame and fortune outside my head.)

Date: 2007-09-26 11:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
It will be okay if it should want to finish being written. You are correct.

Date: 2007-09-26 06:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zwol.livejournal.com
Thank you for writing out the list! All of the descriptions give me the happy feelings. I have mentioned in the past that The True Tale of Carter Hall is the one I really really want to read, but yanno, labor movement space opera? That could be awesome.

But what I'm really wondering now is what is Alder-Wood Statue and why does it provoke the la la la I can't hear you reaction.

Date: 2007-09-26 11:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
The Alder-Wood Statue is the sequel to Dwarf's Blood Mead and The Mark of the Sea Serpent. At this point it's not all that useful to me to write a third book in that series when I could write something I could try to sell independently of those two books. But sometimes those books sneak up behind me and clobber me over the head and write themselves.

Date: 2007-09-26 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sam-t.livejournal.com
A YA novel that deals with what aspects of fighting a 20th century war? There are (probably) lots of 'being caught up in WWII' books, but they're probably a bit rarer if you want things like people planning military strategies.

All options sound good, by the way, but I'm especially intrigued by Dumas and the labo(/u?)r movement.

Date: 2007-09-26 11:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
/u? I'm American, so no /u. You aren't, so /u to your heart's content!

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Date: 2007-09-26 12:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com
I like the title of "You Jerk, Bronson Alcott!".

I think they all sound intriguing. It's a good thing you don't have to decide which one you're working on next.

If I were you, I'd wait until one of them comes more alive in your head.

Date: 2007-09-26 12:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
What will probably happen is that I will look up and blink some morning and realize that I have written another 10K words on one of them, and that maybe I should acknowledge that it's the book I'm writing now.

But putting off that eventuality is a good thing at the moment: I have revising to do, and I have short stories to write. So.

Date: 2007-09-26 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] columbina.livejournal.com
You do not have to pick, &c, and they all sound shiny, and sometimes I do wish you'd go with your working titles, because I would totally delight to see a book in my local emporium titled either You Big Jerk, Bronson Alcott or What We Did To Piss Off the Continent.

Date: 2007-09-26 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottjames.livejournal.com
Is The True Tale of Carter Hall the collection of related short stories? Or is there a novel in that world, too? Or none of the above?

Date: 2007-09-26 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Novel in that world. The novel comes first, then the first of the short stories that I've published. The short stories have the provisional collective title, The Continuing Adventures of Carter Hall.

Date: 2007-09-26 04:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sraun
You do not have to figure out which novel to write next right now.

But the Aesir noir novel and Eleven Words for Home both look really interesting!

Date: 2007-09-26 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dichroic.livejournal.com
You do not have to pick which novel to write next now.... but whenever you get around to them, I'm quite looking forward to the Carter Hall book (because I really do want to see how Norse mytholoyg and hocky combine) and Deportee (because I like Woody and I like books based around songs I like).

Date: 2007-09-26 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timprov.livejournal.com
The Carter Hall book is Scottish mythology with a sprinkling of Finnish.

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Date: 2007-09-27 05:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisem.livejournal.com
You Big Jerk, Bronson Alcott -- no more the actual title than What We Did to Piss Off the Continent was, but it's YA historical SF, set in the mid-19th century US (not nearly far enough west to be Old West -- utopian socialists, not gunslingers or cattle-rustlers).

We must introduce our research collections to each other. I've got utopian socialist elves, whose mission in life seems at the moment to be "Let's drive Ignatius Donnelly crazy."

Date: 2007-09-27 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Hee. It's good to have goals.

I am just starting my research collection on this one. So far I have Utopian Communities in America, 1680-1880 and America's Communal Utopias, and I need to start grabbing more Oneidan, Fourierist, Transcendentalist, etc. materials.

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Date: 2007-09-27 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] casacorona.livejournal.com
I think I can say with perfect confidence that ASPECTS was the book that Mike wanted to write.

What many people may not know is that while it is unfinished, there is a great deal of it. More than 120,000 words of it, and what's written is as tight as can be. It just kept getting bigger and bigger as he went along.

Had he finished the rewrite-transcription of the section he was working on at the time of his death, it would be publishable as is -- frustrating, even infuriating with the lack of closure, but publishable.

There is a possibility that he did finish that work, but if so it is on a computer which is not in the hands of anyone who knows what to do with it.


Date: 2007-09-27 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Thank you for posting this further information. I've left a note for [livejournal.com profile] willshetterly further upthread in case he wasn't following the rest of the comments section. I don't think the "nurse logs" metaphor that Mike shared with [livejournal.com profile] elisem was meant to apply to Aspects at all; that's certainly not how I understood it. I understood it to be talking about other projects of his, hers, and other artists'. You're in a position to know more than most about this; thanks for sharing it with the rest of us.

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