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Well, like anything else, PT for vertigo has better days and worse days.

Anyway.

Lots of very short mysteries from the library this time around, but other things mixed in. All fiction.

Margery Allingham, Dancers in Mourning, Death of a Ghost, Flowers for the Judge, and The China Governess. Last month I asked whether the Allingham I'd picked up then was representative, and heard that it was not. So I got an omnibus from the library with the first three of these titles in it, and the fourth just for good measure. They were the right thing for that set of moods, but I think I'm done with that set of moods at the moment; I will probably go back and read more of her stuff at some other point, but I'm not hooked enough to want to plow through all of them as soon as the library can get them here.

Mike Carey, The Devil You Know. The second half of this book was one of those "why are you bothering me can't you see I'm reading go away so I can READ" sorts of books. I'm sure Mr. Carey is heartily sick of people saying, "If you like Jim Butcher's Harry Dresden novels, you'll love this!" But, well. There we are. Felix Castor is a great deal less initially obnoxious than Harry Dresden, and the writing is better than in the early Harry Dresden books. Carey is clearly a great deal more visual than I am, but who isn't?

Raymond Chandler, The Big Sleep, The High Window, and half of Pulp Stories. I started in with his short fiction because it was first in the omnibus I had on hand. But it was feeling much of a muchness, so I went on to read The Big Sleep on the theory that 200 pages of the same characters is much more palatable if they're actually the same characters and not merely the same kinds of characters. Came upon a passage that was more or less completely lifted from one of the short stories. Hmm. So I think the moral of the story here is: go with the novels. See if you like them. They're not verg long. If you're feeling like a Chandler completist, go back to the short stories.

I'm not feeling like a Chandler completist. I'm not sure I'll even get the rest of the novels unless there's a recommendation for a specific one. I was mostly reading this to get in the right headspace for writing the Aesir noir novel. I did like The High Window better than The Big Sleep, I think because of the sense that somebody in it could possibly tolerate somebody else in it. I get weary of books where nobody likes anybody else rather quickly.

Alexandre Dumas, The Women's War. Not going to take the D'Artagnan books' place in my heart any time soon. Entertaining in the way that Dumas is. There was something else I wanted to say here, but I've completely forgotten it.

Rumer Godden, In This House of Brede. Loved this. Oh, loved it. An extremely quiet and centered book. The worldbuilding was very fine. The nuns were not even slightly idealized. Such a book. Time gets a little mixed in some passages, but that seems more appropriate than otherwise.

One thing the vertigo gave me, I guess, is that if I was feeling well, I would have taken myself to the library. Instead, I had my mom take me, and when she saw this book on my pile, she gave it a fond look and said, "How did you come to this?" If my cryptic notes on my library list from quite some months ago are deciphered correctly, I put it on the list because [livejournal.com profile] yhlee liked it when [livejournal.com profile] papersky recommended it to her. It turns out it was also a favorite of my mother's when she was a teenager, one she'd read out of Gran's stash. And so along with the joy of reading it, I had an overlay of identification with my mother as a teenager, curled into the corner of Gran's couch or off in the sun porch with her feet propped on the green ottoman. I smelled Gran's house in my mind the whole time I read it, Gran's house in summer, the way the net curtains smelled when the sunlight came in them, and lilacs and Emeraude and AquaNet, a tiny bit of oregano and old iron locks on the doors.

We are not ones to hold off book recommendations deliberately in this family, which is in general a very good thing, but it means that I had most of this kind of experience when I was too young to appreciate it the same way that I do now. And it was a good set of decisions, not holding things back; I'll do it myself. I'm already thinking of how I'll be able to tell whether Amber is ready for Swallows and Amazons and whether I'll be able to find her the nice green hardbounds then, whether I should do it in advance just in case. I'm already watching Robin for signs that he's ready to read The Pushcart War or a Tripods book. But I'm glad that at least one thing Mom really loved slipped through the cracks until now, because it was here for me to discover now.

Alan Gordon, Thirteenth Night. This features the characters from Twelfth Night some years after, and a Fools' Guild that is a secret society in Europe. If I had known this, I wouldn't have picked it up in the first place; the fact that I kept reading after finding out in the first few pages should indicate that it's fairly well-done, and also that I had some faith in the recommender. In the end...I saw the murderer coming a mile off, and I'm still not mostly keen on secret societies on the Continent, nor on Shakespearean characters in fiction. It's a quirk I have, I guess. I suspect that if you share neither of those lacks of keenness, this would be a pretty good series for you.

Dashiell Hammett, The Maltese Falcon and The Thin Man. More brain-prep for the Aesir noir novel. I liked the latter better than the former: again, there were people who genuinely liked each other, which improved the experience substantially for me. Also, if you think people drink a lot in Tim Powers novels, uff da, Powers looks like Carrie Freakin' Nation next to Hammett.

C.S. Lewis, Prince Caspian. Less astronomy than I remembered, but I can see how I ended up with a totally mistaken idea of what wine would taste like from this book. I still think that Peter and Susan being old enough to do without Narnia and magic is utter nonsense.

Ruth Rendell, Talking to Strange Men. This was well-done and extremely creepy to me. Rendell managed to take teenagers seriously on their own terms very successfully and yet maintain the adult reader's awareness of protectiveness towards the young: that they were young did not make them innocent, but that they were clever, interesting people did not make them experienced. Very much the opposite of a comfort read for me, but not in a bad way at all.

Josephine Tey, Brat Farrar, Miss Pym Disposes, and The Franchise Affair. I loved these. They were exactly the right thing, but I think I would have loved them at any other moment, too. I wish I could recommend them unreservedly, but I have to note that while it isn't integral to any plot, there are a few totally gratuitous racist comments that will be jarring to most of us. I feel convinced that one of the teachers in Miss Pym, for example, would indeed have said that a student "worked like a black" to mean that she worked very hard; it's an accurate depiction of the idiom of the time. But it's of course offensive, and that sort of thing can be extremely unpleasant when it catches you unawares; when [livejournal.com profile] pameladean and I were talking about it, she said that Tey has a very intimate voice, and that's just it: she's very good at pulling you in, or at least at pulling me in.

These are not mysteries whose main appeal -- to me, at least -- is that one doesn't know whodunnit. Because of that I think they will bear rereading very well.

I wanted more of Jane and Ruth at the end of Brat Farrar. And in the middle of it, honestly. Also, I'm afraid I was reading it as set in [livejournal.com profile] papersky's Farthing universe because that's why I'd heard someone talking of it most recently, and nothing in the book actively corroborates that, but nothing contradicts it, either.

Date: 2008-04-16 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com
Brat Farrar is explicitly set in the Farthing universe, or rather, the Farthing universe is explicitly set in Brat Farrar. I wrote Farthing to give everyone else the experience of reading Brat Farrar with Hitler at the Channel and nobody caring. And doesn't it help a bit with the casual racism?

You will also like the other Tey if you haven't read them yet.

Also, if you liked In This House of Brede, you'll be glad to know that Godden has another couple of books as good, and lots of other books that really are pretty good. Look especially for China Court.

Date: 2008-04-16 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
It does help a bit to make the casual racism seem even more setting-appropriate. Yes. And having read you saying that, I never went through the, "Wait, they were in France when?" realization; it was just always there.

I've read Daughter of Time but not the others and not recently. Daughter of Time was when I was in college and reading everything our college library had that was in Tam Lin, and it just didn't occur to me to look for her other stuff, for some reason. I have a hold request from our library on another omnibus volume of three of them, but some wretch has snaked them out from under me, so I'll have to wait until May.

I will keep an eye out for the Godden, too. I read her children's books when I was small and never thought to look for her as an adult until certain parties sent Kingfishers Catch Fire for my last birthday.

Date: 2008-04-16 11:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aedifica
I've never yet gotten around to reading everything mentioned in Tam Lin, but it is why I read A Tan And Sandy Silence and why I started reading The Worm Ourobouros, only I stopped reading that one because it was more war-positive than I could handle right then.

Date: 2008-04-17 07:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dichroic.livejournal.com
I read Brat Farrar for the first time recently and just loved it. "Intimate voice" is a good description, but. I think for some of you it's the intimate voice of the kind of person you are, at least to some extent and is lovable because of that. For me, it's an intimate voice of a totally different sort of person, at least for Brat and Eleanor and Ruth and Aunt Bee, and is lovable because of that. Everything is so quiet and implicit in a way that's entirely foreign to my experience of family life. It's nice to visit with Tey playing interpreter; I'm fairly sure in real life I'd be mising all the unspoken messages.

But my big question is, is The Franchise Affair as good as this and Miss Pym Disposes and The Daughter of Time? If so, I definitely need to acquire a copy.
Edited Date: 2008-04-17 07:57 am (UTC)

Date: 2008-04-17 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
As good, I don't think so, no. Still good, definitely. Worth reading, for sure. But it was the weak link among the three I read recently. I haven't read Daughter of Time recently enough to say.

Date: 2008-04-16 05:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ckd
I still love The Pushcart War. Hmm, might be time to slot that into the comfort re-read queue, along with the Great Brain books.

Date: 2008-04-16 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seagrit.livejournal.com
The second half of this book was one of those "why are you bothering me can't you see I'm reading go away so I can READ" sorts of books.

I had that same feeling recently with "A Civil Campaign". I was reading it in the *car* on the way to and from work. You know it's good when you're desperate to fit in just 10 more minutes of book and risk a husband's wrath because you're not conversing with him during the commute. (And I read it to and from lunch a few days too, since I had it in the car anyway. I was nearly crying over Mile's apology letter in front of four coworkers.)

Date: 2008-04-16 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Oh, he knew what he was getting when he married you; he can live with a quiet commute once in awhile if the future Lady Vorkosigan is at stake.

Date: 2008-04-16 09:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pameladean
The only Chandler novel that I can reread with pleasure these days is The Long Goodbye. It has its hair-tearing moments, as does all of Chandler. But it's my favorite one, because it's that thing you get in a lot of mystery series, the book that is atypical of the series because of the way it delves into the psyche of the detective, or because the detective is in disguise, or is having a nervous breakdown, or is getting divorced, or whatever.

Which REMINDS me, I wonder if you would like Edmund Crispin or if he would just drive you nuts. I came to him much later than to Tey (it's Mike Ford's fault) and so my instincts aren't as good regarding him, but I guess I'd say that The Glimpses of the Moon, The Moving Toyshop, and and The Long Divorce are good possibilities. I can't help suspecting that Tom Stoppard has read Crispin; there are just some moments in Arcadia that incline me to this suspicion. Not the mathy ones, though.

P.

P.

Date: 2008-04-16 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
So would one get the pleasure of The Long Goodbye with only having read three of the others, only two recently? Or not as much, do you think?

I am perfectly willing to find out on the Crispin. I will make the library tell me. They have The Glimpses of the Moon, though not any others, so if I like it and you have the others, I may make puppy eyes in the general direction of your house.

Date: 2008-04-16 11:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pameladean
That's an interesting question about the Chandler. I think the pleasure is possible but not guaranteed. I also think it's just a better novel than the others, in a lot of ways. It has room for reflection.

We have a number of Crispin's books, though not, I think, anything like all of them.

P.

Date: 2008-04-17 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zalena.livejournal.com
I love your booklists! I cleaned out my Amazon wishlist this morning and realized that many of the books on the list (and the books I read off the list) were things you'd mentioned here.

Date: 2008-04-17 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Thanks for mentioning this!

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