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Lloyd Alexander, Westmark. Reread. Discussed elsewhere. Please note that discussion of the sequel is coming up a week from tomorrow, so you still have time to find and read The Kestrel if you want to. It is better than Westmark. I love Westmark, but I love The Kestrel still more.

Steven Brust ([livejournal.com profile] skzbrust), The Phoenix Guards and Taltos. Rereads. I almost didn't let myself read Taltos, because I don't want Taltos to be the book I read when I'm grieving and not at other times. But the not at other times seemed, upon reflection, to be the important bit, so I did read Taltos, and it was just what I wanted, and it was full of Noish-pa, which I knew it would be, so I was prepared.

Jennet Conant, The Irregulars: Roald Dahl and the British Spy Ring in Wartime Washington. This was moderately interesting, but the problem with structuring your book around the spy experience of someone who didn't have a grand culminating dramatic caper is that it sort of feels anticlimactic when he's done spying. And to have the writing of James and the Giant Peach be anticlimactic to anything was decidedly strange.

Daniel Fox, Dragon in Chains. I found this extremely immersive at the time, but truth to tell, it's one I will probably have to reread before making a go at anything sequelish, because much of the detail has gone out of my head in the blur of the last few weeks. I liked the jade. There was lots of jade, and I liked it.

Georgette Heyer, Cotillion, Frederica, Friday's Child, Regency Buck, and The Grand Sophy. One among you (I don't know if she wants her generosity known) sent me a big box of Heyers. I went to [livejournal.com profile] papersky's ranking of Heyer, put the ones I'd received in order in the stack, and started at the top. You know what doesn't happen in Heyer novels? People's beloved grandfathers don't die from medical mistakes. Also, they exemplify the difference between "you don't have to concentrate too hard" (which is good right now) and "you have to turn your brain off" (which I can't reliably do and don't really want to). So far my favorite is The Grand Sophy. So far I am in agreement with [livejournal.com profile] papersky's rankings, but I have several left on my pile, and several I can get from the library after that if I want them, so we'll have plenty of data on that point.

(The one [livejournal.com profile] papersky likes best is listed as lost from our library, which makes me mutter dire imprecations about people who lose library books.)

Bill Holm, Coming Home Crazy: An Alphabet of China Essays. I always read Holm books in sort of a "dealing with the crazy uncle" frame of mind: he has so many interesting things to say, and then sometimes he is so wrong-headed, and so I can't get upset about the wrong-headedness, because I know it'll be there, and it doesn't detract from the interesting bits.

Anthony Hope, The Prisoner of Zenda. As long as I was reading for discussion of Westmark I thought I should go back to the source of the Ruritanian romance. It was light and fun and short, and I hadn't read it in nearly eighteen years. How smart of Hilary's mother to know to pick it out for my twelfth birthday present; it is just what I wanted then, and just the sort of thing it's useful for me to have tucked away in the back of my head.

Graham Joyce, The Exchange. This felt like a much older YA novel than I usually find, almost the reverse of the pattern where the protag is supposed to be a few years older than the intended audience. I liked the ending. It was a book that was about people doing the best they could with what they had. I don't think I sympathized as well with some of the characters as I was meant to, though.

Emmet Kennedy, A Cultural History of the French Revolution. Erm. This is another one I don't remember a great deal about, I'm afraid, except that it was what it said on the label.

Clea Koff, The Bone Woman: a Forensic Anthropologist's Search for Truth in the Mass Graves of Rwanda, Bosnia, Croatia, and Kosovo. This was, as one might expect, a very difficult book to read. Koff started her work in Rwanda, and she had relatives in I think she said three of the countries bordering on Rwanda, so her personal experience was as fascinating as the comparatively more objective facts, and just as difficult to get through. I recommend this book highly, but only to those with strong stomachs.

Nancy Kress, Steal Across the Sky. Discussed elsewhere.

Laura Miller, The Magician's Book: A Skeptic's Adventures in Narnia. A few interesting bits. The line between "light" and "shallow" is sometimes a very thin one, and I think Miller spent the whole book darting back and forth across it. She found things fascinating and revelatory that I found obvious, dull, or irrelevant. There are few things more tiresome than people who are sure they were exceptional children making statements about the limitations of even exceptional children, when it turns out that they were fairly ordinary little beasts, compared to my friends' children, and have completely pulled those limitations out of their orifices. Also if you are going to do lit crit about Narnia, you at least have to be able to paraphrase Puddleglum correctly, even if you're going to argue that he's wrong. Sheesh. Reshpectobiggle.

Elizabeth Moon, Marque and Reprisal and Engaging the Enemy. I am enjoying this series quite a bit. The last two volumes are on my pile to read, and I'm waiting to get my copy of the first one back from my mom (who got it back from my uncle already, since he read it after her, and they both liked it), so that I can pass it on to others. The timing on this was just perfect. Go space opera.

David Pietrusza, 1920: The Year of the Six Presidents. This was my grandpa's. I'm going to be reading through my grandpa's books a bit at a time. This one he actively wanted me to read: I had picked it up for him for a present, and it's a breezily written popular history he found fun. I found it fun, too. It was hard to get to the first of the passages he saved out to read me over the phone, though. Anyway: it chronicled a time when people really didn't know who was going to get the nomination going into the conventions. Gosh.

Alistair Reynolds, The Six Directions of Space. Novella in book form. I found the premise completely unremarkable and the execution mediocre. There is better Reynolds to read than this.

Simon Schama, A History of Britain: Wars of the British 1603-1776. This was one weird book. See how it says right there on the label, 1776? Nuh-uh. Nope. I figured that was the signal that Schama had decided to deal with the ups and downs of late eighteenth and nineteenth century colonialism in a different volume, but no: we get a great deal of American Revolution past 1776 in this book, and some India past 1776, but other Commonwealth territories, not so much. It was bizarre. Also some of his segues made him look dumb. Also he thought more highly of James I and VI than I did (note: not hard). But still a good intro sort of book, and I'll read the last one in the series just for completeness's sake, and also because I feel gappy about the early part of Victoria's reign and the early part of Elizabeth II's.

Paula Volsky, Illusion. This is the worst book I have actually read through to the end in years, which goes to show you what I will put up with when promised peasant uprisings. The heroine was this terrible horrible Mary Sue, and there was no reason to want her to prosper in the slightest, or in fact to care what she did at all. And it went on, and on and on and on. Also there was a dog who was there to garner our sympathy for the stupid odious heroine when it was killed by the Meany Mean Meanhead Peasants, which was really a waste, because the Volsky could have killed the girl to garner our sympathy for the dog instead and improved the book immensely. Also, the notions of what is okay to do if you're really hungry and what is Just Too Wrong were really stupid. Bah. Give me something else with peasant uprisings in it. Preferably something in which the author thought about the peasant uprisings more than she/he thought about what color dresses the queen's ladies in waiting were wearing on which days.

Jo Walton ([livejournal.com profile] papersky), Lifelode. Beautiful book. Lovely book. Weird, weird book. When [livejournal.com profile] papersky was talking about this book many moons ago at Minicon when she was just some writer I had barely met and not my friend Jo yet, Timprov and I agreed that if it was anybody else we would think they would screw up the details enough on the time flow things to make it completely unreadable, but that we trusted Jo to do it. We were right to trust Jo. [livejournal.com profile] sdn compared it to The Dubious Hills in the intro, and other people have noticed that, too. For me, beyond the setting and the tone, the thing that made it most like The Dubious Hills is that they are each the book (so far) out of the bibliography of these two writers that is most like curling up and having my friend tell me a story. With tea and maybe biscuits.

Oscar Wilde, The Happy Prince and Other Stories. I think I encountered this too late in my life. Not that I didn't enjoy it, but I think it would have been shinier and more formative earlier.

Date: 2009-04-01 04:09 pm (UTC)
carbonel: Beth wearing hat (Default)
From: [personal profile] carbonel
The one bit of [livejournal.com profile] papersky's rankings that I disagree with is An Infamous Army. It's not one of my favorites, but I'd put it in the second grouping. Also, it's a sequel of sorts to both Regency Buck and (IIRC) The Corinthian.

I'd be happy to offer you my copy of A Civil Contract to read, but it's probably easier for you to get it from Blaisdell Poly.

My copy of Lifelode (which I keep wanting to spell as "Lyflode" -- I think Jo spelled it that way on her LJ originally) arrived a couple of days ago, and it's next in the queue after I finish rereading TSK: Horizon.

Date: 2009-04-01 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com
You can spell it either way and it's fine by me. The directory spells it with a Y and the file with an I. I think I thought it would look more like a word with an I.

Really? You like An Infamous Army? I think it's boring. How are you on A Spanish Bride?

Heyer, at her best with Almacks and ducklings and people making a cake of themselves.

Date: 2009-04-01 05:08 pm (UTC)
carbonel: Beth wearing hat (Default)
From: [personal profile] carbonel
I do like AIA, and I'm not usually fond of the battle part of military stuff. (Although I'm a sucker for books involving military training -- I suspect it hits the same thing that I like about boarding school novels.) I enjoy seeing the fluffy characters deal with non-fluffy events, for some reason.

I don't like The Spanish Bride anywhere near as well, though part of that might be that the first time I read it, I had confused it with An Infamous Army, and I kept waiting for for the Battle of Waterloo. But mostly I don't find the characters as interesting. There's the same level of twee-ness as in These Old Shades without the redeeming acerbity.

Date: 2009-04-01 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
I have TSK: Horizon on my pile as well.

Date: 2009-04-01 04:30 pm (UTC)
pameladean: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pameladean
I have lots of Heyer, but not all -- if, as is intimated above, it's A Civil Contract, I have it, though I may have to rummage a bit.

P.

Date: 2009-04-01 04:31 pm (UTC)
pameladean: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pameladean
And I loved Lifelode passionately. I could not have written it, but it has lots of things in it that I mostly have to write if I want to read them, so it was so splendid.

P.

Date: 2009-04-01 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com
When I am influenced by things, other than when I'm outright stealing their plots or modes or whatever, it's mostly by thinking that somebody did X and got away with it and the implications of that are reassuring for my ability to do this. I wouldn't say Lifelode is influenced by The Dubious Hills in any sensible way, but it's certainly influenced by it like that. But I bet everyone compares them forever, because high-magic domestic fantasies are pretty thin on the ground. I'm glad you liked it.

Date: 2009-04-01 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
And it is a great pity that they are thin on the ground, says me.

Date: 2009-04-01 07:37 pm (UTC)
pameladean: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pameladean
Yes, that's what it felt like -- that there's a category one could put both those books into. You don't sound like me or construct a book like me, and a lot of the look and feel is also totally different, because of the way time is handled and the general emphases, not to mention basic social structure and the fact that our minds don't work the same way.

I really loved all the parts I couldn't have written, too, and in fact the combination is part of what made it so very satisfying.

P.

Date: 2009-04-01 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
That's the one, and I would appreciate it.

Date: 2009-04-01 07:40 pm (UTC)
pameladean: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pameladean
Okay, I will poke around and see if I can find it.

(It's been read recently, is the problem, but I think I can run it down.)

P.

Date: 2009-04-02 06:26 pm (UTC)
pameladean: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pameladean
Update: well phooey. It seems to be genuinely missing. Um, can I offer you Cotillion? The Unknown Ajax? The Quiet Gentleman? (My taste in Heyer is a little off, perhaps -- what I really like is Venetia.

P.

Date: 2009-04-02 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Oh, no thanks; I have severalmany more Heyers left on the stack before I will start asking around for the ones I've missed. Did Cotillion, and The Quiet Gentleman is before me still.

Date: 2009-04-01 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com
Oh, and I felt just the same about Illusion, a book I read shortly after it came out, and which got taken back to the library and set down on the returns desk very firmly.

And the other thing about Lifelode. Never write anything with the tenses like that because copyediting will make you hate it. I made the time work. I'm not sure I made the plot work. Eh well.

I've been wanting to send you hotdish a lot recently, so I'm glad it felt like that for you.

Date: 2009-04-01 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
I think the plot worked, by which I do not mean that it will be held up as an example of plottishness to beginning writers age 5 or so, but that is not the sole thing one might aspire to in a plot. The things that happened made a whole story piece, and it was a good whole story piece.

I do have hotdish provided by another party at this very moment, even. Which is not the same as being able to do it yourself when you have the urge, I know, but still: other people are stepping up.

I also read and loved the chapbook, but I decided when I started making book posts that chapbooks went with magazines instead of with books, even though they get shelved with books and, in retrospect, I have no idea why I decided that.

Date: 2009-04-01 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wshaffer.livejournal.com
After reading Schama's book, I think I described James I and VI as "a guy who I'd like to have a beer with, who should on no account be allowed to run a kingdom."

Date: 2009-04-01 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Yah, and I don't like beer.

Date: 2009-04-01 07:18 pm (UTC)
gwynnega: (books poisoninjest)
From: [personal profile] gwynnega
Just to say that I always really enjoy your book roundups.

Date: 2009-04-01 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillsostrange.livejournal.com
I read Illusion in high school entirely because it had a pretty Whelan cover (this also led me to read The Golden Witchbreed, which I adore, so it's okay) and remember loathing it. I'm glad to know it wasn't just my callow youth failing to appreciate a masterpiece.

Date: 2009-04-02 09:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shewhomust.livejournal.com
Yay jade! I liked the jade too.

Date: 2009-04-05 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zalena.livejournal.com
Glad the Heyer has hit the spot. I really liked the Miller while I was reading it, but it didn't really make enough of an impact upon reflection. It seems the best parts of the books were reproduced elsewhere, which begs the question of whether it should've ever become a book. And yes, you probably would've loved the Wilde tales as an early teen.

I'm behind on all discussions, including the Westmark books, but I will be back later to discuss them. Even when not participating, it does make the solitary act of reading a bit more sociable.

Date: 2009-04-05 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Back later to discuss is good. The Kestrel isn't until Thursday and The Beggar Queen isn't until May, so maybe things will have settled down a bit by then. We can hope.

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