She's very sneaky, and you might be, too.
Nov. 13th, 2009 11:14 amWhich made me wonder: how many of us have a list of pen names we would use in this situation? I know I do. I skip the most obvious one, which is my actual legal name (Marissa Gritter), because I have a possibly weird personal bias about pen names, and this bias only applies to me: I am not Dutch. I don't want to use a Dutch name for my writing because I am not Dutch, not Dutch-American or Dutch-Michigander or any other thing that might tie to being Dutch. I am greatly fond of my Dutch-Michigander husband and in-laws and those of their Dutch-Michigander friends and associates I have met, but if it is true as they say in Grand Rapids that if y'ain't Dutch, y'ain't much, I am, in fact, not much. But I would write as a Fossback, because that was my Gran's name, or as a Haugan, because it would amuse me to go incognito as Ms. Norwegian Underhill, or as a few other things that are both ethnically appropriate to me and reasonably spellable.
(As I said, this does not apply to you lot. If you are Italian-American and you write as Julio Nguyen-Markowicz, I would not be the least put off by that. But the only exception for me personally that we've joked about is that if I start writing teen romance novels, I would do so as Melissa Glitter. The likelihood of this is well into the negative numbers--I can imagine writing in a lot of genres and categories, but none of them are romance.)
So. Do you know who you'd be to fool bookstore computers? And do you have a rationale? ("I like that name" is a rationale.)
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Date: 2009-11-13 05:31 pm (UTC)I have an entire list of family names I'd be happy to pull from. Lots of kick ass women in my family with great names I could use.
And someday! I will learn to type.
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Date: 2009-11-13 05:34 pm (UTC)I'm really fortunate this hasn't happened to me yet.
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Date: 2009-11-13 05:36 pm (UTC)I would prefer not to use a pseudonym at all - I like getting credit for my work. But there are reasons why it might have to be, and one of them is that the children's book industry would shy from a writer whose (admittedly obscure) past credits consist mostly of writing erotic stories or articles for sex-oriented magazines/websites.
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Date: 2009-11-13 05:41 pm (UTC)I use my middle name and my grandmother's maiden name, because I like the matriarchal element of the latter, and because my middle name was adopted in admiration of someone who helped me a great deal when I became me, as opposed to that bloke people once thought I might be.
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Date: 2009-11-13 05:41 pm (UTC)Shalanna Collins is actually a pen name of sorts. When I first discovered dial-up BBS living back around 1982 (~!~), the BBS sysops told you not to use your real name but to use a handle or pen name, because they'd had problems in the past with people getting their phone numbers and addresses looked up in the phone book (remember I said it was ancient times~!) and then getting hassled IF their BBS posts had rankled these other people. At the time, it was mostly a local hobbyist thing.
So I took "Sheila" and "Lana," two family names out of our family tree, and made "Shalanna," which my mother approved of. "Collins" is also a family last name (we're 75% Irish, she says, even though I don't think you can be 75% Irish *and* 15% Choctaw *and* all those other percentages she believes we are.) I soon was running my own BBS, White Pegasus (later Palindrome WriterNet), and it was a good thing that they didn't know "who I was IRL," for many of the guys thought it was outrageous to have a sysop-ette (a GIRRRLLL), and they liked to hassle me. Whew! Have things changed? Yes, I would say sort of they HAVE.
Anyhow. So that became my pen name for SF/F and essays.
About five years ago, an agent told me that neither my "real" name or Shalanna would be good for book covers, and that if my mystery series sold, she'd like me to use a pre-approved, crowd tested name. It happened that another writer friend's agent had actually offered her a list of names that went through a focus group (!!!) and had been officially approved (!!!!). She only needed one. So she offered me the list, and I chose "Caitlyn Young." That's what I've used on my romantic suspense/paranormal romance over at TextNovel/Dorchester. I think it sounds like a romantic young writer.
I believe Shalanna is now too easily Googleable with all sorts of opinions and hobby talk--and now there's a famous singer with my "real" name--so it could be that I'll have need of yet another pen name. This time I'd throw caution to the winds and do some kind of literary allusion or pun. Holly Golightly is probably TOO obvious. Fewer people would "get" Elizabeth Darcy (nee Bennet), but there you are. There might be others. . . .
My cousin decided to be very Southern-helpless-trailer about it and registered on TextNovel as "Alyncia DuBois." I had to laugh, as Alyncia is the name of my heroine out of my first non-juvenilia fantasy novel ("Paladin Spellbound," currently under the bed in a box), and DuBois is a nod to Blanche DuBois, who was the nut in "Streetcar Named Desire." She really got into it with them over on the forums, I am told, so I'm glad she didn't register as herself! Her "real" name is passably weird, anyway.
Alyncia DuBois should write a grotesquerie Southern Gothic sort of thing. Unfortunately, my cousin is into realistic YA stuff instead. . . .
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Date: 2009-11-13 07:38 pm (UTC)Actually, scratch the "rather." I'm just appalled.
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Date: 2009-11-13 05:41 pm (UTC)Which does solve the ethnicity question; I wouldn't want to give a hugely mistaken impression.
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Date: 2009-11-13 05:43 pm (UTC)however, i do think about what if i had to disappear and go into hiding, which name would i use then?
your differently weird friend,
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Date: 2009-11-13 06:43 pm (UTC)But come on, tell us the names, that's the point of this thread! Tell us the secret names you're going to hide from us under!
Oh. Uh, never mind.
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Date: 2009-11-13 05:53 pm (UTC)The legal name would be manageable, though people try to mangle my last name into sounding French (to which my response is usually "Pronounce both ts - it hasn't been French since the Norman Conquest").
My legal name also suffers from a problematic R placement for me, due to the last residual bits of very specific hearing loss when I was learning to talk. (R and W remain hard letters for me: one of my voice teachers in college finally figured out that I don't actually hear myself say the letter R as much as know where it really ought to be.) Saying my name is usually fine, but spelling it can be tricky if I'm having a bad day.
I've long been tempted by using Penelope (what my parents almost named me) as some portion of a pen name. (Either as the first name, or using Pen or something similar as a surname). My middle name (Clare) is also a perfectly serviceable last name.
(In my junior high, there was someone named Jennifer Clare who kept getting called down to the office, and I kept having that reaction you do when your parent starts using your full name and you know you're in trouble for something and then going "Oh, right, not me.")
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Date: 2009-11-13 06:00 pm (UTC)For last names, taking my husband's last name, Starr, seems like a really obvious choice, because it's memorable and easy to spell. And Gwendolyn Starr has a certain ring to it. I do rather love my grandfather's last name, Desnoyers, and Anne Desnoyers is a very plausible name, but no one would ever be able to spell/pronounce it correctly.
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Date: 2009-11-13 06:02 pm (UTC)So once I ran through Reesa Brown and C.M., I'd probably have to start getting more creative.
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Date: 2009-11-13 06:10 pm (UTC)Why
moshuiDaniel Fox? I honestly can't remember. It's a name I'd used before, back when I was a crime writer and there was a conspiracy abroad to make me write horror in my copious spare time; I published a few stories as Daniel Fox, and was working on a novel when the whole project became moot because my crime publisher started publishing my crime books as horror anyway and Dreadful Confusion threatened. But I really can't remember why I chose that name, or if indeed there was any reason other than that I find it euphonious and it's much easier to remember and spell than Chaz Brenchley ever was...no subject
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Date: 2009-11-13 08:30 pm (UTC)I am fond of the name Maud Bunyan, but not for you or anything you seem likely to write.
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Date: 2009-11-13 07:39 pm (UTC)That said, I'd use Collins, which is my original middle name and an old family name, and with it one of the names my mother thought of calling me but didn't: Meredith, Camilla, or Kimberly. I'd have to decide whether alliteration was unfortunate or not.
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Date: 2009-11-13 08:27 pm (UTC)I can only comfort myself with the idea that she had not read your books at the time.
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Date: 2009-11-13 07:42 pm (UTC)My front-running possibility, however, got a hole knocked in it when I discovered I've been misspelling my maternal grandmother's maiden name all this time. I thought it was Seline, and so the name was Anna Seline -- my mother's middle name is Anne, but the rhythm goes better with the a -- but it turns out it's spelled Sellin, and then it looks too much like "selling," which is just distracting. So I don't know what I'd do.
Sadly, I'm not a huge fan of most of the maiden names buried in my family tree. Though Balmer would at least put me back near the front of the alphabet.
Edited to correct an error, and also to say -- I DO NOT WANT to have to change names, of course. Not just because of what it would mean professionally, but because Writer-Me has been Marie Brennan since I was ten years old, and so I am what you might call attached to that name.
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Date: 2009-11-13 08:54 pm (UTC)Which makes me kind of glad that I'm not likely to try and publish any such things, because I have no idea what name I would use. I'm rather attached to my own, and never really wanted to change it... even though I've even had girlfriends unable to pronounce and/or spell it correctly. (The girlfriends did not last long, although not specifically for that reason)
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